Pending Custom titles for all members
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1) So what if there is the tiniest little degree of separation? Staff keep the community running. Without them, it would crumble. So why not throw staff the tiniest little shred of thanks their way for the staffing they did? Sure, staff vs player alienation is a real issue, but this is literally the one thing that staff get to keep from their time staffing. This isn't the place to start hacking to try and solve a rift between players and staff. And yes, I did say cool kids club. Because I think being staff is pretty cool. Sorry if that bothers people.
2) It's not about logistically tracking who was staff. We have better ways for that. It's just a cute little privilege for staff and former staff to show off that they helped staff the server at one point, if they wanted to.
3) this is your opinion. clearly custom title is a well sought after benefit. extra points for staff affects game play and is scuffed, staff picnics already happen (and don't happen once you're not staff anymore), private skins are imo tacky and unnecessary.
4) this was brought up, and i did not like it. feel like that would cheapen it even more than just opening it up to everyone. This would be a cash grab that I would not like to see, personally.
What if we did a short little pseudo-poll about the thought of making custom titles part of donating (adding it to current perk packages)
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And @Titan the server can’t run without staff, but it also can’t run without the community behind them. Individually, staff make a greater impact. Collectively, neither can exist without the other. I agree with pretty much everything else you said, tho.
I do remember, as a new player and staff, finding it neat to be able to see that someone was former staff at one point because of their custom title. So that is a point to bring up
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And @Titan the server can’t run without staff, but it also can’t run without the community behind them. Individually, staff make a greater impact. Collectively, neither can exist without the other. I agree with pretty much everything else you said, tho.
I do remember, as a new player and staff, finding it neat to be able to see that someone was former staff at one point because of their custom title. So that is a point to bring up
while this is true, and ofc the community is top tier, the staff puts forth specific effort (at least fifteen hours biweekly, historically) devoted to just making sure the servers stay the cleanest and best they can be. we cannot be totally blind to the work staff put in for almost no benefit whatsoever. this is the one concrete thing they get, i think it's fair for staff to keep it.
As for that last bit, I 1000% agree.
I'm really concerned about this statement from an admin perspective to be honest. It totally ignores the community. I think it's important to remember that a lot of the people who populate our servers are there for way beyond 15 hours biweekly, and without them, the servers wouldn't be a thing. I'm not sure why, but you have seemed to confuse the proposal here to be to remove all staff incentives. I'm not saying that in the slightest. Staff incentives are important. However, I am saying that we shouldn't restrict a common forum function that excludes others in a public eye for the sake of forming a cliques.
It isn’t about making a divide. It’s simply the only current perk for former staff. It’s the only thing you keep. When players play, they aren’t doing it simply to support the community. 99% of the time they are doing it because it’s a fun, familiar place to play. Titan is right about staff putting in work. Staff put in more work and effort, beyond just the hour requirement.
Im personally neutral to this suggestion, leaning towards keeping it a staff perk. My previous statements have just been to help facilitate other opinions
I staffed SGM for about two years with breaks here and there, I know people that specifically wanted to get staff for custom titles only and resigned shortly after, as well as people that reapplied for the same reasons with the same ends. It's not a good system to show who is ex-staff if their contributions aren't anything worth noting in the first place. I think custom titles should be able to be applied by everyone, and with no rank-locking behind it. It promotes individualism and that's hella neat.
I like the idea of it being a donor perk as well. Besides, not that custom titles aren't cool n stuff, I feel like something better should be given to staff for their time and effort. From what I can tell, they do a lot - way more than I've seen in any other gmod community, and I'd even go so far as to say the most of any gmod community. I wouldn't really consider a custom title on the forums to be a "sufficient" benefit to that end, personally. Just because that has been the norm for years in SGM doesn't mean it can't be changed to something more satisfying for everyone, while also bringing in better benefits/incentives for staffing.
was going to type something out after rating it last night, but couldn't think of a good way of explaining my stance, best i can come up with is this
it's a perfectly fine feature to give to donators, idc about that part
i just feel that being staff and helping people out is the incentive, not being able to meme a little extra in a limited character amount
if the reason someone becomes staff is for the incentives, then that honestly kinda worries me
edit: basically, my dislike is saying that i am perfectly ok with what we've got as staff now, don't think we need more